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#2 Marvel Fall of the Mutants

HeroClix Fall of the MutantsX-Factor's Fall of the Mutants was the first X book that I purchased, so I have a great fondness for it. After all, this is where Apocalypse turned Angel into Death and the four horsemen of wreaked havoc across the world.

Over on the X-men side we had Wolverine leading his group into the jungles of Forge's mind. The X-Men were all killed in this series, but were "resurrected" in the same finale', unable to be seen by electronic devices.

Over at the New Mutants, Cypher is shot and killed, Bird-Brain becomes king of the Ani-Mates (don't ask), and Magento quits as head of the Xavier school.

To be fair, a lot of these figures were covered in previous sets, but I think we could definitely use more and they should be done right. I was pretty miffed at the Danger Room Starter Set -- they included some of the X-Factor but not all of them. Where was the human beast who got stronger (but dumber) every time he used his strength? Where was Archangel? And were was Iceman with super ice powers (and power dampening belt)?

#1 DC Kingdom Come

HeroClix Kingdom ComeThe KC/HYPERTIME figures have always been very popular with HeroClix players, so how about a full set based on this universe? The book itself is rich with characters from all facets of the DC Universe, just ripe for plucking into the HeroClix mode.

Here's a small list: Power Woman (aka Power Girl), Robotman (aka Cyborg), Captain Comet (the warden whos back was snapped in the prison riot), the new Hourman, Power Man (android programmed by Superman), Phoebus (similar to Firestorm), and much much more.

This would also be a great time to remake some of the older KC figures to be more in line with the current state of HeroClix, like Superman and Green Lantern.

While they're at it, I do believe the KC Batman needs a serious make-over, as well as the Sentry Batman. Most notably the Batman needs to be actually playable, and Sentry Batman needs to be a non-unique. I still don't quite get that one...

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I don't see where the "What if" Set would work. Some of the stories where the Universe gets distroyed kind of don't work. Stories where Someone else becomes a hero often are in the same boat. Alot of the stores have actually been addressed in their own "reality" series or universe. or the series be based off the story. Steve rogers not being the only Super Soldier. Now we have a Colored Captian America , US Agent, And other weeker versions of that Super Soldier concept

The Early store of the FF getting different powers would be a interesting collector set(reed richards in Doom's Body and a Member of the FF.) That would actually make a very interesting alternate reality universe. Has potential for being better than Untimates. Reed Richards could constantly internal struggle with Dr Doom wanting his body back. They could use vertually all ond stories just different results. Spiderman could end up joining the FF(another What if story) and the end results being different from all the other stories. They touched on this in the exiles where the team teleported to different realities. It had so much potentail. I have to red them again. I think in one reality Sabertooh either works for or runs SHIELD

Posted by: Sir Christopher on 12/18/2011 1:59:47 PM
I like the KC set idea. It would be nice as it is a Team ability that is middle of the road. (can be used but not always used and players don't graon when they see it on the board unless it is a 0 range tournament). A new Indy set would be nice as long as 90% of them don't have BCF and low def. A Looney Tunes/Hannah-Barbaria set would be funny. Guy gardenier getting beat up by Mighty Mouse, Speedy Gonzales out running the Flash, Quickdraw Mcgraw/El Kabong character would be great

Posted by: Sir Christopher on 12/18/2011 1:21:23 PM
I would love to see some of the cross overs as well from movies like V for Vendetta, League of Exraordinary Gentlemen etc. My most cherished dream is reissue of Danger Girls. Loved the series and still play the clix but they so need an update.

Posted by: inspired stranger on 12/18/2011 12:15:33 PM
no more kc figures please dont let it be the new avengers abuse aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! on 10/25/2010 4:13:51 PM
how about any of "the end" issues... hulk, punisher, x men, wolverine and im pretty sure there was the end of marvel too. I think that would be a cool add on to the "what if" set.

Posted by: mike on 7/16/2010 12:49:21 PM
House of M is a grand idea. I could go for an all Age of Apocalypse set too while we are going with marvel. Sugar Man still doesn't have a piece and it would be nice because we could include the AA background on the cards and give them their AA Teams.

Have to admit I gagged a little about Iron Man. Gotta love him but with all those little starter packs they've been selling with the movie just out, and the duo piece of him and War Machine included in WOS, I kinda think it's gone far enough.

Oh, how about a Silver Surfer set, with Cosmic Surfer, Comsic Carnage, some of those Draconians, Galacta, Mentor, the Watcher, Ego (As a flam or something reasonable sized)Morg, Nebula, Stranger, Tyrant, Ultimate Galactus Drone, Silver man(wings), Beyonder, Lady Chaos, Fallen one.

Posted by: Bobby on 6/16/2010 2:23:41 AM
They could get really far with a Spawn set, they could make a set based on "Wild Worlds" so that they could combine Spawn and WildC.A.T.s

Posted by: Dreadnaught on 5/2/2010 6:33:38 PM
All of these are good ideas, but I really like the idea of a Marvel 1602 or Marvel Noir set. Anyone else?

Posted by: japete61 on 4/15/2010 3:58:03 PM
Personally i would love to see an entire marvel set based on the zombie universe. That way you would be able to do battle-field demotions(omg i was bit by a zombie, ill die in x turns and turn on my forces) as well as bring the ONE figure and god of B-film acting to clix.... Bruce Campbell!

Posted by: Undeth on 4/12/2010 5:40:24 PM
Personally i would love to see an entire marvel set based on the zombie universe. That way you would be able to do battle-field demotions(omg i was bit by a zombie, ill die in x turns and turn on my forces) as well as bring the ONE figure and god of B-film acting to clix.... Bruce Campbell!

Posted by: Undeth on 4/12/2010 5:01:47 PM
marvels house of M anyone?

Posted by: magic master 21 on 4/7/2010 5:39:26 PM
How about Vertigo, really indy Indy set (Powers, Usagi Yojimbo, S.I.P or any smaller press), or Astro City? A real Jarvis to finish the Avengers would help, too.

Posted by: quas on 2/25/2010 3:47:50 PM
Joe, what you say is true, but keep in mind that Wildstorm is just an imprint of DC with it's own staff and direction. In fact, Wildstorm publishes many creator owned material. For example, Kurt Busiek's ASTRO CITY is under the Wildstorm Imprint, and is creator owned (not DC owned)... this would definitely fall under the "Indy" moniker.

Posted by: The Le on 1/3/2010 5:44:47 PM
I would love the secret wars set as well as the DC space theme (lanterns and Legion)
Nice list

Posted by: battlinbichon on 1/3/2010 5:34:15 PM
I agree with some of The Le's ideas, especially Indyclix II (Matt Wagner's Grendel is a must!) and a WHAT IF set. So many figures could be done on the alternate reality theme. Uatu the Watcher! Iron Man 2020! SHIELD agent Wolverine! Iron Punisher! Old Man Logan! And other characters who aren't variations of Wolverine and Iron Man! :)

But some of the storylines he wants to see are decades old! I loved DC's Invasion, but I would get so annoyed if I opened up an INVASION booster and drew a common Tasmanian Devil for the 5th time (it was recently revealed that Prometheus killed and skinned him!)... and Fall of the Mutants? That storyline was why I STOPPED reading X-Men! It changed the tone of the comic into a gritty non-stop kill-fest (I suppose some people like that sort of thing but I like to see the good guys win once in a while). Characterization went to hell and it became all about the fight scenes.

And I loved Kingdom Come and would love to have those pieces but every time someone plays one of them I have to groan because they are so abusive! And do we really need another Bat Sentry? There are so many other worthy figures that could be made instead (I'd rather have newer versions of Booster Gold, Deadshot and Guy Gardner).

Good article, even if I disagreed with some of the choices!


Posted by: Wombatboy on 1/3/2010 3:30:17 PM
It's disturbing how many people don't know how the comics industry is put together. I've lost track of how often I've seen people bring up Wildcats/Authority/Wetworks for a second Indy set.

DC has owned Wildstorm for about ten years now. Wildcats, the Authority, Planetary, Wetworks, and ABC would all be fine choices for an expansion, but it would be a DC set, not an Indy set.

Posted by: Joe Gualtieri on 1/3/2010 4:41:21 AM
The younger kid theme figs seem to be Power Pack and Runaways! Now can you say...."X-Babies!" Gotta slip them in somewhere! As well as a revamped Spiral, Mojo and Longshot!

Nuff Said!

Posted by: Illiniwek on 12/30/2009 1:39:32 PM
Lots of good ideas for new sets. I especially like Marvel Secret Wars and DC Kingdom Come, which are both sets that could have plenty of figs from those respective storylines and also have figs from other areas as well. Great work and Happy New Year!

Posted by: rwint1968 on 12/30/2009 12:11:53 PM
All good ideas, the What if series has the most promise as a resource. Storm as Phoenix comes to mind. But they could lump other items like limited runs to fill as well. The Last Avenger story arc....Blind Hawkeye or an all Ultron set to match the iron man series....all good.

Posted by: Scourge101 on 12/30/2009 11:03:19 AM
Not a bad list. Definitely think several of these topics may be to general, would love to see more KC figures (although Supes was remade in Crisis).

You should definitely stop using "______ WE want" in case someone from NECA reads this and thinks these were actually agreed upon by a large group of players.

Sets I would like - Blackest Night, Age of Apocalypse, Kingdom Come, X-Men (a lot of them need remakes especially the Brotherhood).

Posted by: Deadpool55 on 12/30/2009 10:12:50 AM
i would like Marvel 1602. New Ultimate universe and a all new set full of clasic mutants (not like M&M) in the House of M Reality...

Posted by: Grimm on 12/30/2009 9:45:16 AM
I would prefer to see Alex Ross's designs come to life in an X set(Earth X, Universe X, and Paradise X). There's so much that could be done there, like Banner and Hulk Duo, Captain America in his toga or angel guise, Power Cosmic Reed Richards, the Mar-Vell child, and it goes on. It would make for a more interesting set, but I suppose that's my opinion.

Posted by: Siwelkire on 12/29/2009 11:58:51 PM